No ads ripoff

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  • #1957682

    Is anyone else annoyed as hell that Word Press is putting ads on our blogs unless we pay them $30 per year?
    I don’t want my blog hijacked by some tasteless ad (Viagra anyone?) or even a tasteful ad.
    Don’t know what to do. Move blog to new site? Ask WordPress to reconsider hijacking our blogs to get revenue for them? Since I pay for the blog name, should I get the revenue from my blog page?

    The blog I need help with is lovearttravel.com.

    #1957758

    timethief
    Member

    Noo I’m not annoyed because this has been our reality since 2006. I have free blogs being free hosted and it’s ads that help pay the bills.

    #1957760

    I PAY for my blog and that doesn’t seem to buy the benefit that I control what goes on it.
    I understand if your blog is free timethief but don’t you think it is unfair if we pay fees?

    #1957762

    timethief
    Member

    WordPress.com has been displaying advertising on our blogs since 2006. As they do not display to us when we are signed in you may not have noticed them previously. The ToS section 9 that we agree to in order to get a blog states this, the features page states this, and so does the advertising entry in the support documentation but many bloggers do not read these. The bottom line is that if you do not wish to have advertising displaying on your blog you will have to purchase an annually renewable No-Ads upgrade.

    I pay for No-Ads upgrades for my blogs which are both on their own domains, and that means I spend a $30.00 per year divided by 365 days in a year ie. I pay a whopping 0.08219178082 cents per day on each one. Big deal.

    #1957765

    timethief
    Member

    If you wish to hire a web host and assume the associated costs with self-hosting which I have done then you experience a reality check. For self-hosting figure an average monthly total cost (including cost of a domain name) of about $10 to $25 generally for the most basic sites, but that all depends on storage and bandwidth requirements. Most bloggers I know that take this route to make money via advertising do not make enough to cover their hosting and domain registration costs. A few make some pocket change over and above their expenses.

    There is no Staff assistance for WordPress.ORG installs. You will be responsible for all upgrades, installations, backups and troubleshooting. If you install a theme or a plugin that negatively affects your blog, then you have to figure out what went wrong and fix it.

    In 7 Reasons Why I Like WordPress.com Hosting I actually include 9 reasons and they are the ones that compelled me to return my personal blog to being free hosted here.

    #1957766

    auxclass
    Member

    Note: ALL upgrades here are EXACTLY what they say they are – no more no less – you are paying for domain mapping ( $ 13.- / year ) (maybe also registration) – the Ads help pay the bills –

    buy the no ads if you don’t like them – or move to your own hosting – note that your own hosting will probably start around $ 125/ year – and you do the upgrades and site maint. that the staff currently handle for you – also bandwidth and storage will also probably be less than here

    #1957769

    Do you work for Word Press? Please represent yourself with some transparency as employed staff.

    Sounds like you are advocating for WP beyond what an ordinary blogger would do.

    Again, I am disappointed that I paid and was not made aware my content would be hijacked for some random ads, leading to embarrassment that it appears I am promoting or endorsing any ad that Word Press selects to place there.

    Sorry my reputation and the integrity of what I do is far too important to risk having someone at Word Press USE me this way.

    #1957776

    timethief
    Member

    I am a Volunteer and so is auxclass. This is a peer support forum. If you wish to have Staff support then you can do that. Read this please
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/help-support-options/

    If you have a paid upgrade, please use the “Contact Support” form, where you will receive a choice of having staff answer your question publicly or privately.

    #1957777

    auxclass — yes I could pay for NO Ads and that’s $30 added to the $35 or so I already pay.

    The question is in what other ways is WP using me and my site, content etc that I am unaware. It’s a trust factor just like FB and others whose only asset is US and our contact list, parlayed into corporate value.

    Do you have any clue what Word Press makes from Ads? Is there a way we can find out? How much are they making off my site? Maybe it is much more than what you all think you are getting for “free?”

    I realized that WP is using me for ads, what else is in the fine print? What else are they planning to hijack?

    #1957778

    Thanks time thief. Can’t imagine why you would “volunteer” to do this.

    Are you saying I have to “pay” something else to get someone on the Support staff to talk to me?

    Yikes!

    #1957780

    timethief
    Member

    Sorry my reputation and the integrity of what I do is far too important to risk having someone at Word Press USE me this way.

    Clearly you failed to read the Terms of Service http://en.wordpress.com/tos/
    and the features page http://wordpress.com/features/
    and the advertising entry http://en.support.wordpress.com/advertising/. However, it’s never too late to hire a web host and move your content into a WordPress.ORG install.

    WordPress.com and WordPress.org are completely separate.
    http://support.wordpress.com/com-vs-org/

    1. Hire a web host http://wordpress.org/hosting/

    2. Set up a WordPress.org install and equip it with a theme and plugins.
    http://wordpress.org/themes/
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/

    3. Export your content out of your WordPress.com blog http://en.support.wordpress.com/export/ and import it into the install.

    4. Purchase a site redirect upgrade from wordpress.com
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/site-redirect/ or if you have domain mapping then see here http://en.support.wordpress.com/domains/move-domain/#change-name-servers-to-point-the-domain-outside-of-wordpress-com and here http://en.support.wordpress.com/domains/move-domain/

    5. Transfer subscribers and stats. See http://en.support.wordpress.com/moving-a-blog/moving-your-subscribers/

    6. Set your wordpress.com blog visibility to private. To change blog visibility to private go to > Settings > Reading scroll to Blog Visibility and choose option 3 . See the guide here http://en.support.wordpress.com/settings/privacy-settings/

    Alternatively you can purchase a Guided Transfer and Staff will do the move and set up for you http://en.support.wordpress.com/guided-transfer/

    WordPress.com and WordPress.org have different log-ins and run different versions of themes with same names. If you don’t have a username account at WordPress.ORG click http://wordpress.org/support/ and register one on the top right hand corner of the page that opens, so you can post to the support forums there and receive advice from WordPress.ORG bloggers.

    #1957781

    timethief
    Member

    Are you saying I have to “pay” something else to get someone on the Support staff to talk to me?

    No In am not saying that. My communication is clear and so is the relevant support doc I linked to above. There is no cost involved. Here we go again.

    Read this please
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/help-support-options/
    If you have a paid upgrade, please use the “Contact Support” form, where you will receive a choice of having staff answer your question publicly or privately.

    #1957784

    Sorry time thief. You are obviously an advocate/salesperson for WordPress services and fees. Not a “peer volunteer”

    I will find other forums to express my displeasure with Word Press’s policies. At least I tried with Word Press first to have someone listen and help. I had hoped there was a process as opposed to yet another service to buy, to stop ads on my blog. Instead I got pitches to buy more services.

    It’s important to me that others understand what is buried in the small print and so they won’t be disappointed when they are used in this way.

    #1957786

    timethief
    Member

    This is a public forum. Threads are not deleted and are almost instantly indexed by Google and are available to all with internet access. So as you failed to read the Terms of Service and the relevant policies dating back to 2006, you may want to save any dramatic performances for the theater.

    #1957789

    Sarcasm is unbecoming for someone who is positioned as a volunteer or otherwise, to offer support on this forum.

    #1957790

    timethief
    Member

    I am not being sarcastic. I am a plain speaking individual and it’s my opinion that it’s in your best interest to stop the drama queen performance. You failed to read the Terms of Service and the relevant policies before entering the contract. You are now assuming the position of a victim and finger-pointing at anyone other than yourself, while launching passive aggressive attacks on those who have responded to this thread. That behavior which is evidenced in this thread has been indexed by Google and is appearing in the SERPs and in my opinion it does not look good on you.

    #1957792

    Forwarding to management for review.

    #1957795

    timethief
    Member

    Please do that and don’t forget to include a link back to this thread that Google’s spiders are busy indexing.

    #1957797

    timethief
    Member

    I don’t want my blog hijacked by some tasteless ad (Viagra anyone?) or even a tasteful ad.

    If the ads you see are found at the end of blog posts then provided you see this small About These Ads link what you are seeing is ads placed by WordPress.com .

    Any other ads you see are not places by WordPress.com. If you see any then you have an adware or malware issue on your browser or computer. These ads are sometimes caused by malware or a virus, but more often it is due to a browser extension or toolbar that you may have installed in your browser. These sites have further explanation and suggestions for eliminating the ads:
    http://www.littletechiethings.com/2012/06/how-to-remove-ads-not-by-this-site.html
    http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/05/14/ads-on-wikipedia-your-computer-infected-malware/

    #1957800

    auxclass
    Member

    There is no fine print – I did read the TOS several times before moving here – the no ads was gifted to me shortly after I moved and I have renewed it every year. I have other blogs that I left the ads on, same for some friends that I set up a blog for – we went over the options – including the ads and they decided the ads were fine.

    One should read the Terms of Service before clicking the box that you understand and agree to the TOS.

    The only way to remove the ads is to buy an upgrade that has no ads as part of the upgrade. That info you were given early in the thread – sorry no non-profit discounts or discounts for starving artists etc. I sort of like the one price works for all

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