block vs classic

  • Author
    Posts
  • #3556866

    rovingrodge
    Member

    How do I get out of block so I can use the old classic version?

    #3556864

    rovingrodge
    Member

    It’s awful!!! SO confusing! The thing I loved about my old site was the simplicity. Not everyone has a technical mind and this new system is driving me nuts.

    #3556871

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hi there, I’ve merged your two forum topics so we can keep all support on this in one thread.

    WPcom is retiring the Classic Editor in the MySite dashboard for the entire WPcom platform. You can read more about the change in these blog posts
    https://wordpress.com/blog/2020/05/18/say-hello-to-the-wordpress-block-editor/
    https://wordpress.com/blog/2020/08/13/the-classic-editing-experience-is-moving-not-leaving/

    Your choices now are the Classic Block in the MySite Block Editor, which emulates the previous Classic Editor, as described here: https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/blocks/classic-block/ or if you prefer not to use the Classic Block there, the original WP Classic Editor https://wordpress.com/support/editors/#classic-editor is available via the WP Admin dashboard of your site at yoursite.wordpress.com./wp-admin/post-new.php

    However, the Block Editor is easier to use than most people believe and has been greatly improved over the last couple of years. If your sites have already been switched to the Block Editor at MySite, you can try it out in a draft post and there’s a tutorial to get you started at https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/

    If you have a specific process you use to write and post your content, why not share that process with us so we can see how to help you adapt?

    Post back here if you have any more questions about this.

    #3556872

    rovingrodge
    Member

    Thank you for the merging, Jennifer – makes sense!

    I just looked at an old post and it has lost all character. The photos are now like a line up in a police station, rather than the way I had them designed to be displayed.

    Why the change? How can I get my photos to be as they used to be?

    Really disappointed about this.

    #3556874

    rovingrodge
    Member

    Been trying to get my head around it and I am starting to think I will just give up my blog. All I wrote it for was for me, not for business. It is creating too much stress that I do not need right now.

    #3557172

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hello again, Let’s start with this:

    I just looked at an old post and it has lost all character. The photos are now like a line up in a police station, rather than the way I had them designed to be displayed.

    Could you please provide a link to that old post so we can take a look?

    Also, have you tried just writing in the Block Editor at MySite? The default block is the Paragraph block and you can add images when starting a new block by hitting Enter by starting to type /image which will bring up a whole array of image insertion options.

    If you are feeling a bit overwhelmed by the sheer number of available blocks, you can limit the number of blocks that appear for you in the Block Manager to just the blocks you need and use. (screenshot)

    When in your post or page, click on the Ellipsis at the top right corner of the Block Editor and then click on “Block Manager” under TOOLS (see screenshot 01)

    In the next pop-up window that opens, you can uncheck all the blocks that are not relevant for you either by unchecking individual blocks or entire sections by unchecking the box next to the section heading (see screenshot 02)

    Unchecking that box doesn’t delete the block; it only removes it from view and you can always re-enable the block later if you decide to use it by checking the box again.

    You can find a tutorial on getting started with the Block Editor at https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/

    #3557182

    rovingrodge
    Member

    https://wordpress.com/block-editor/post/rovingrodge.wordpress.com/14516

    Hi Jennifer – this is one such post. It was a tiled mosaic effect and now is just a heap of squares.

    Thank you for tips like managing block numbers. I suspect that will be very useful. I have been using Classic block as I cannot have a pluggin with my level of blog type.

    It is very tiring, though, to have to do a blog para by para (I do not have internet so have to write it in advance then cut and paste) and then if I suddenly want to insert a photo into the middle of a paragraph block, I cannot., It just goes right to the end of the block.

    #3557183

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hello again, as a volunteer I’m unable to see posts through your site’s dashboard. Have you published this post? If so, please share that link instead.

    #3557192

    rovingrodge
    Member

    I thought that was what I had done, but here we go!

    https://rovingrodge.wordpress.com/2020/08/29/down-to-the-river-selenge-we-go/

    thank you for your patience, Jennifer

    #3557200

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Happy to help.

    It was a tiled mosaic effect and now is just a heap of squares.

    Looking at your published post with Firefox 80 and Win10, I can see 2 tiled mosaics and another gallery with 2 images in that post on the public side that look like this (temp screenshots)

    If that is not what you see, please make and upload a screenshot following this guide: https://wordpress.com/support/make-a-screenshot/

    #3557206

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Ah, but that also brings up whether you see the jumble in the Editor or in the published post. :)

    #3557213

    rovingrodge
    Member

    You are right! It is all in order! Maybe THAT was the problem – erm what is the difference between the published vs the editorial? Is it editorial when you select it from the Posts option under My Site? This time when I looked I went into visit site…

    #3557232

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    So here’s the thing, content that was created prior to your site switching to the Block Editor should be preserved inside a Classic Block. That might not look the exact same in the Editor as when you wrote it or when you view it on your site from the public facing side.
    This link is in your Block Editor https://wordpress.com/block-editor/post/rovingrodge.wordpress.com/14516

    This link is the public facing link https://rovingrodge.wordpress.com/2020/08/29/down-to-the-river-selenge-we-go/

    If you need to edit your existing content extensively, it might be worth opening your site’s WP Admin Classic Editor rather than the Block Editor. As I wrote above, you can learn more about that here> https://wordpress.com/support/editors/#classic-editor

    In your site, you’ll find the WP Admin Classic Editor at https://rovingrodge.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php and then hover your cursor over the title of the Post and you’ll see a link to edit it in the Classic Editor

    That screenshot came from a relatively new WPcom FAQ, which you can find here: https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-com-classic-editor-deprecation-faqs/

    It’s quite long, but really does answer a lot of pertinent questions.

    #3557594

    rovingrodge
    Member

    I did some hovering but nothing happened. I don’t have that Classic Editor option on mine. Maybe cos it was a free site? No added frills?! :-)

    #3557615

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hello again, no, it wouldn’t make any difference if your site is a free site.

    If your site previously had the Classic Editor at MySite before the switch, then you may have only the Classic Editor at WP Admin>Posts at the moment.

    Things are in flux, but it’s my understanding that once WPcom has finished switching the entire platform over to the Block Editor, you’ll see that other option in WP Admin>Posts like in the screenshot.

    Meantime, this part is still relevant if you want to Edit with the Classic Editor in WP Admin

    If you need to edit your existing content extensively, it might be worth opening your site’s WP Admin Classic Editor rather than the Block Editor. As I wrote above, you can learn more about that here> https://wordpress.com/support/editors/#classic-editor

    In your site, you’ll find the WP Admin Classic Editor at https://rovingrodge.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php

    Once you are there, click “Edit” or the title of the Post, which will then open the Classic Editor for you.

    Sorry if this caused some confusion.

    #3559594

    rovingrodge
    Member

    Thank you for your help, Jennifer. Looks like a case of wait and see, until things settle more.

    :-)

    #3559599

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    You’re very welcome.

    Again, if you click Add New or Edit in the WP Admin Posts/Pages dashboard at https://rovingrodge.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php the Classic Editor should open for you even now.

    #3560059

    rovingrodge
    Member

    Jennifer – whilst we are at it….!!! :-D

    I had a query that I sent to “An Expert” on the WP team but after asking for a link for my site, he went awol and now the case is closed.

    Can I test your knowledge instead?!

    My query was that in the old style, I used to be able to group photos and yet still label them individually, whereas now it SEEMS that I can only do that for “image” and not “gallery”, which is a pain as the photos sometimes need to be explained.

    Any advice?

    ALSO….

    Cos of my circumstances here internet-wise, I write my blog upstairs, then come down stairs and try to get wifi from across the miles, so I cut and paste for convenience. I find that I now have to do it paragraph by paragraph or the photos I try to add merely end up right at the very end. Ok, so… but the problem is, what happens when I, say, paste one para, then put a photo, then think eh, I want that photo in the middle of that block of text, not at the end.

    IS there a way to insert photos into the middle of a text block or do I have to delete the block and divide it into separate parts so I can put the photo in. Doing it this way is very tiresome and does not allow for flexibility in layout.

    Is there a way around this?

    Cheers :-)

    #3560531

    rovingrodge
    Member

    Slow. Confusing.Laborious. Too much information to no positive effect. Just taken me 20 minutes to put on one photo and it keeps telling me I have no connection, and yet my other online apps are working just fine.

    The old system was perfectly good. Why change? I don’t need to know how great the web designers are at WP, but I do need to get things done effectively. I am not the only one with a massive headache now either.

    You say we can still use the classic block but it requires backing and forthing in between each section, no room for flexibility. Why not just have it as one simple option whereby you can register to use the old classic style wthout having to click buttons every 5 minutes?

    Thank you.

    #3560536

    rovingrodge
    Member

    FYI – today I was able to caption individual photos – but had lost the ability to tile a gallery…

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.