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<title><![CDATA[From Nothin to Somethin: Forbes Rags to Riches Billionaires]]></title>
<link>http://sandwichanddrink.wordpress.com/?p=53</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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&#8220;Two-thirds of the 1,125 billionaires on our list are self-made, having built their immense e]]></description>
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<p><strong>"Two-thirds of the 1,125 billionaires on our list are self-made, having built their immense empires from scratch. While earning a billion bucks is admirable under any circumstances, some billionaires have overcome especially daunting odds en route to their fabulous wealth. From academic struggles and family tragedies to substance abuse and extreme poverty, these modern-day Horatio Algers have lived a capitalist fairy tale."</strong></p>
<p><strong>--<em>Devon Pendleton</em></strong></p>
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<title><![CDATA[The Fashion Billionaires - parte II]]></title>
<link>http://nucleodemoda.wordpress.com/?p=58</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>carlamager</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Bom, eu trouxe um post rapidinho sobre a lista da Forbes com os Fashion Billionaires há um tempinho]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;"><a href="http://nucleodemoda.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/forbes.jpg"></a><a href="http://nucleodemoda.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/ralph-lauren.png"></a><a href="http://nucleodemoda.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/benetton.png"></a>Bom, eu trouxe um post rapidinho sobre a lista da Forbes com os <a href="http://nucleodemoda.wordpress.com/page/4/">Fashion Billionaires </a>há um tempinho e fiquei de complementar o post. Já que estou falando de luxo, nada melhor do que complementá-lo agora...</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Vou escrever um pouquinho de cada empresário já seguindo o ranking, ok?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">1- Bernard Arnault – patrimônio líquido US$25.5 bilhões</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Ninguém menos que o homem mais rico da França, o presidente e chefe-executivo do poderoso grupo LVMH – Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton -, que detém marcas como Christian Dior, Louis Vuitton, Marc Jacobs, Fendi, Thomas Pink e Donna Karan. Ninguém controla mais marcas famosas de moda do que Arnault. Recentemente, ele está aumentando sua participação no Carrefour, a segunda maior varejista do mundo, que fica atrás apenas do Wal-Mart.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;"> 2 - Amancio Ortega – US$20 bilhões</span> </p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Seu pai fundou a empresa há 45 anos fazendo batas e lingeries com a ajuda de sua esposa. Hoje, a empresa Inditex é uma potência. Eles são associados de diversas empresas, entre elas o grupo Zara, Pull and Bear e Bershka. São 3.825 lojas em 68 países. Ortega está, inclusive, na 22ª colocação na lista publicada em março pela Forbes, dos “World's Billionaires”. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">3 - Stefan Persson – US$17.7 bilhões</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Stefan Persson é filho do fundador da Hennes &#38; Mauritz, a H&#38;M. Há 26 anos à frente da marca, Persson solidificou o império da família. A primeira loja foi fundada na Suécia em 1947, e agora existem 1.500 lojas em 28 países. A marca já fez parcerias com diversos estilistas, entre eles Karl Lagerfeld e Stella McCartney. O resultado das vendas dessas parcerias é incrível. Além de fortalecer a sua marca, a H&#38;M fatura horrores. No último ano, a empresa teve uma receita estimada de US$15 bilhões.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:Times New Roman;">4 - </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Francois Pinault – US$16.9 bilhões</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;">Os irmãos Wetheimer controlam o grupo Chanel, fundado por seu avô e Coco Chanel. É umas das marcas mais desejadas no mundo e quem assina sua direção artística é o excêntrico Karl Lagerfeld. Inclusive na China a Chanel é a marca de luxo mais desejada.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;">Sua marca, a Nike, surgiu para fazer roupas para atletas e hoje é unânime neste segmento. </span></p>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">7 - Giorgio Armani - US$5 bilhões</span><a href="http://nucleodemoda.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/armani.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-248" src="http://nucleodemoda.wordpress.com/files/2008/06/armani.png?w=247" alt="" width="247" height="300" /></a></span></div>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;">Armani largou a faculdade de medicina em 1957 e começou a trabalhar como comprador em uma loja de departamentos. Com um olhar clínico, ele lançou a sua própria linha nos anos 70. Hoje a Armani é um grande case de sucesso com seus vários segmentos de atuação. Inclusive, a Samsung fechou parceria com Armani para utilizar seu nome em alguns aparelhos eletrônicos.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">8 - Ralph Lauren - US$4.2 bilhões</span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Conhecido por levar classe à massa, agora está levando isso para o uniforme, de abertura e encerramento das cerimônias, da equipe Olímpica dos EUA. Suas marcas são <span style="color:#000000;">Ralph Lauren, Polo e Club Monaco.</span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Verdana;">9 - </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Carlo, Gilberto, Giuliana e Luciano Benetton - US$2.9 bilhões cada marca </span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Os irmãos Benetton fundaram o Grupo Benetton em 1965. A empresa possui hoje 5.000 lojas em 120 países. Mas isso é resposta da dedicação dos irmãos, que no início faziam tudo com as próprias mãos: Giuliana produzia os suéteres e Luciano saía de bicicleta para vendê-los. Fazem parte do Grupo as marcas United Colors of Benetton, Sisley, Playlife e Killer Loop. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Depois de conhecer melhor os bilionários do luxo, entendemos porque este segmento cresce e é tão desejado por diversos empresários. Mas não basta querer, tem que ter precisão na estratégia e na gestão.</span></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Conceptos básicos de seguros: Como se calcula la prima del seguro de coche]]></title>
<link>http://segurodecocheymas.wordpress.com/?p=98</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>actuario</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Siguiendo con los conceptos básicos del seguro y viendo que realmente hay muchas personas que visit]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siguiendo con los <strong><a href="segurodecocheymas.wordpress.com/2007/07/07/el-infraseguro-y-otros-conceptos-basicos-del-seguro">conceptos básicos del seguro</a></strong> y viendo que realmente hay muchas personas que visitan el blog para aprender más sobre el seguro, intentaré explicar otro concepto.<br />
Hoy, voy a a intentar explicar, de la forma más sencilla posible, como <strong>se calcula la prima del seguro de coche</strong>. Espero ser capaz de explicarlo, y de simplificar al máximo, ya que si, normalmente, le doy mil vueltas a todo, como haga lo mismo con la prima, no servirá de nada el tiempo que le dedique a este post.<br />
Uno de los motivos por los que quiero explicar este concepto, es porque, por regla general, cuando se habla de seguros, por suerte o por desgracia, es o bien para quejarse, de que la aseguradora de turno, no ha actuado de forma correcta cuando hemos tenido un siniestro, o bien, para hablar de lo caros que son los seguros de coches, aunque bien es cierto, que en estas conversaciones, a veces surje  alguien que presume de que ha conseguido el <strong>seguro más barato de todos </strong>(eso sí, no se suele hablar, de las coberturas que se contratan, o de la calidad del servicio, ya que eso no estaría bien visto, no es algo <strong>"IN")</strong></p>
<p>Centrándonos en la <strong>prima del seguro</strong>, su importancia, se ve claramente, al aparecer en la definición del primer artículo de la <strong><a href="http://www.dgsfp.mineco.es/sector/documentos/legislacion/CONTRATO%20JULIO%202006.pdf">ley del contrato de seguro</a></strong>:</p>
<p><strong>"El contrato de seguro es aquel por el que el asegurador se obliga, mediante el cobro de una prima y para el caso de que se produzca el evento cuyo riesgo es objeto de cobertura a indemnizar, dentro de los límites pactados, el daño producido al asegurado o a satisfacer un capital, una renta u otras prestaciones convenidas."</strong></p>
<p>De todas formas, intentaré dar la explicación más sencilla, para poder entender mejor la forma en la que se calcula el precio que pagamos por el seguro del coche, de la moto, de nuestra casa, y en general de los que se definen como Seguros No Vida..</p>
<p>La prima, no es más que el importe que determina la compañía de seguros de coches o cualquier otro seguro, como contrapartida por cubrirnos en el caso de que acontezca un siniestro, que este cubierto por la póliza (es decir un riesgo asegurado)</p>
<p>Centrándonos en el cálculo de  la <strong>prima base del seguro de coche</strong> (o lo que se denomina desde un punto de vista más técnico, la <strong>prima pura</strong>), se calcula multiplicando la <strong>probabilidad de ocurrencia de un siniestro </strong>por el c<strong>oste medio del siniestro</strong>. Para entenderlo mejor, explicaré por separado, como se calcula cada uno de estos conceptos.</p>
<p><strong>Probabilidad de ocurrencia</strong>: este valor se obtiene dividiendo el número de siniestros ocurridos en un período entre el número de vehículos expuestos al riesgo. Este concepto, desde un punto de vista más técnico se llama <strong>FRECUENCIA SINIESTRAL</strong></p>
<p>En resumidas palabras, es el porcentaje de coches que han sufrido un accidente sobre el total de la cartera de pólizas de seguros de coches que tiene una aseguradora. Para que os hagáis una idea, durante el 2007, según los datos de <strong><a href="http://www.icea.es">ICEA</a></strong>, y para la garantía de daños propios (la que contratamos con un seguro de coche a todo riesgo) fue de un 36,53% para turismos, es decir, que más de 1 de cada 3 vehículos tuvo un siniestro durante el año pasado (evidentemente, habrá algún conductor/a, que haya repetido, siguiendo el famoso dicho, de que la estadística siempre dice, que en el caso de que mi vecino tenga dos coches y yo ninguno, al final dirá que los dos tenemos uno, vamos, más de uno podría decir, que es una ciencia partidaria del sistema comunista ;) )</p>
<p><strong>Coste medio del siniestro:</strong> coste total de los siniestros de la compañía, dividido entre el número de siniestros ocurridos. Siguiendo con el ejemplo anterior, el coste medio de los siniestros de esta garantía ascendió a 929.88 euros.</p>
<p>Este cálculo se hizo sobre una muestra de  2.843.407 vehículos que tenían asegurada esta garantía.</p>
<p>Es decir que el coste total de los siniestros de esta garantía, fue de casi 1.000 millones de euros. Aunque como todo en esta vida, esta cifra, en función de con que lo comparemos, realmente no es un valor muy elevado. No parece una cifra demasiado elevada, si la comparamos con la fortuna personal del empresario invisible, o lo que es lo mismo el <strong><a href="http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/valor/fortuna/Amancio/Ortega/reduce/6200/millones/meses/elpepueco/20080108elpepieco_10/Tes">Sr. Amancio Ortega</a></strong>, ya que hasta que su empresa no salió a bolsa, no hubo forma de ver una foto suya, y que actualmente, y pese a los vaivenes de la bolsa es el hombre más rico de España, gracias a su capacidad para convertir una tienda de batas en la multinacional, estandarte de España, por el mundo entero <strong><a href="http://www.zara.es">ZARA</a></strong>. </p>
<p>Evidentemente, es una forma muy básica de explicar como se calcula el <strong>precio de nuestra póliza del seguro de coche</strong>, pero creo que como primer paso es suficiente.</p>
<p>Más adelante, haré como las aseguradoras, e iré  añadiendo posts explicando los gastos de administración, gastos de adquisición, los recargos por conductor, coche, zona, y ver otros conceptos que influyen en el precio final del seguro de coche.<br />
Para que os podáis hacer una idea de estos factores, que posteriormente pueden influir en la prima definitiva del seguro, según un estudio de la <strong><a href="http://www.munichre.com/de/homepage/default.aspx">reaseguradora Münchener Rück</a></strong> podríamos hablar más de 50 factores diferentes que pueden afectar en la prima del seguro de automóvil.<br />
De hecho, cuando escribía mis posts de <strong>como <a href="http://segurodecocheymas.wordpress.com/category/ideas-para-conseguir-seguro-de-coche-barato/">conseguir un seguro de coche barato</a></strong> ya hablaba de forma ímplicita, en diferentes factores de riesgo que podían aumentar o disminuir la prima de nuestra póliza del coche.</p>
<p>Por último y como este post, es de los que van dirigidos, a todos que acuden a internet, a consultar dudas de seguros, quería comentar que la prima que pagamos en los seguros de coches, se basa en la valoración o cuantificación del riesgo que el asegurado puede sufrir <strong>durante un año</strong>, independientemente, de que después sufra algún siniestro o no.<br />
En muchos casos, queremos, que como no hemos sufrido ningún siniestro, y hemos estado unos cuantos años pagando el seguro, algunos se enfadan cuando no le devuelven parte de la prima, pero en condiciones normales, no hay derecho a tal devolución (es distinto en un seguro de ahorro) ya que la base del seguro, es como el lema de los mosqueteros "<strong>Uno para todos y todos para uno</strong>", es decir, todos pagamos los siniestros de los demás, pero si yo tengo algún siniestro, los demás me los pagan a mí.<br />
De todas formas, y como es costumbre en este blog, os recomiendo si tenéis más dudas al respecto, en relación con la <strong>devolución de la prima del seguro de coche,</strong> que visiteis este <strong><a href="http://www.arpem.com/seguros/s_lpn/importante/fin_prema/fin_prema_p.html">enlace de arpem</a></strong>.<br />
También os recomiendo la lectura de un post escrito por un mediador profesiona, <strong>Angel del Amo</strong>, en su blog, en relación con la situación actual del mercado y las primas de los seguros, que lo ha llamado el <strong><a href="http://angeldelamo.blogspot.com/2008/04/el-regateo.html">Regateo</a></strong>, y creo que con poner el título del post, está todo claro a que hace referencia.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Rocío es una estudiante de dibujo de 26 años de edad. Lleva haciendo dibujos y bocetos desde 1999,]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocío es una estudiante de dibujo de 26 años de edad. Lleva haciendo dibujos y bocetos desde 1999, y acaba de descubrir que una colección de camisetas de la conocida empresa transnacional Zara ha plagiado sus dibujos. La empresa ya le ha comunicado que no reconoce que haya plagio y no está dispuesta a reconocer el delito. Y tú, ¿que harías en su situación? Impotencia ante el poder y el abuso de las gigantes empresas todopoderosas.</p>
<p>Mucho valor Rocío, ¡adelante, denuncia! Tienes la opinión popular de tu parte, y será mucho mejor si los medios de comunicación hacen eco de la noticia (la ponen de moda). Desde aquí todo el apoyo del mundo, permitas que actúen con impunidad.</p>
<p>La noticia con los dibujos de Rocío y los de las camisetas: <a title="Noticia+dibujos" href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&#38;friendID=195416836&#38;blogID=391071805" target="_blank">http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&#38;friendID=195416836&#38;blogID=391071805</a></p>
<p>Entrevista a Rocío: <a title="Entrevista" href="http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/377135/0/rocio/disenos/zara/" target="_blank">http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/377135/0/rocio/disenos/zara/</a></p>
<p>Vía: <a title="Plagio de Zara en el diseño de camisetas" href="http://meneame.net/story/plagio-zara-diseno-camisetas" target="_blank">1</a> y <a title="Me da miedo enfrentarme a Zara" href="http://meneame.net/story/me-da-miedo-enfrentarme-a-zara" target="_blank">2</a></p>
<p>P.D. ¿No es absurdo que una empresa como Zara recurra a estas vergonzosas prácticas para diseñar sus camisetas? ¿Habrá sido despedido/a el/la diseñador/a que realizó dicha colección?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">A couple of days ago Xbox360Fanboy ran a story about Rock Band being released in the UK and Europe.  Its coming out in the UK on the 23rd of May.  Strangely, that is only for the Xbox 360 version, the other consoles will be delayed until later in the Summer.  Heres some of the details:</p>
<blockquote><p>The UK version of Rock Band will include all 58 tracks found in the North American release, as well as feature nine new tracks spanning German, French and UK hits.</p>
<p>The game will be sold separately from an “Instrument Edition,” which is only includes the drum set, guitar and microphone peripherals, priced at GBP 129.99 (EUR 169). When factoring in the price of the software the package will cost gamers roughly $360 US. Additionally, UK gamers will have the option of purchasing wireless guitars separately for GBP 59.99 (EUR 79.99), while the standard drum kit will go for GBP 69.99 (EUR 89.99). (source: Xbox360Fanboy.com)</p></blockquote>
<p>But did you notice that price tag?  Thats right, the full package (instrumental and the game itself) will put you back around £180 (thats about $360).  To me that seems very much overpriced, especially when you consider that you can buy the game in the US for around $150 (source: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-8493816-5709640?url=search-alias%3Daps&#38;field-keywords=rock+band&#38;x=0&#38;y=0" target="_blank">Amazon.com</a>) which converts to around £80-85.</p>
<p>We all know that Rock Band is something that has not been done before, but £180?  You can get a Wii for that, or a second hand Xbox 360.  Its <strong>a lot</strong> of money to pay for a game.  Harmonix’s Rob Kay has spokeon to Eurogamer to defend the price of the game, blaming VAT and distribution costs.  You can check the story out <a href="http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=131029">right here</a>.</p>
<p>No matter what is to blame for the high costs, I won’t be buying the game at that price.  I could get four or five retail games for that price.  Seems a lot of people feel the <a href="http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/09/harmonix-defends-euro-rock-band-pricing/#comments">same way about the situation.</a> Are you willing to pay £180 for the game, especially when you can pick up Guitar Hero 3 for around £60-70 (source: <a href="http://play.com">Play.com</a>).</p>
<p>When it comes down to it £180 is just too expensive.  I was looking forward to the game and I was quite happy to pay £100-120 for it (considering the price in the US that would still be expensive) but £180 is far too high.  I know I won’t be picking up the game for this price but how about you?  Still planning on buying the game you UK and European Gamers?  Let us know.  You can either comment to this post or email us at <strong>yoursay@maximumfear.netFa</strong></p>
<div class="body">So, I hear tell that there's some new game coming out that, apparently, folks are kinda stoked about. Being that there's likely going to be quite a bit of talk about said game, we figure we'd put together a chatty thread dedicated to tonight's midnight release of Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto IV.Did you go to the midnight release parties? Beat a fellow patron to death for a collector's edition copy? Tell your stories, talk up the game and nerd out in <a href="http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=52435">the comments.</a> And let's keep the GTA 4 discussion here to avoid flooding tonight's Evening Reading.</p>
<p>Don't forget, we also offer <a href="http://www.shacknews.com/tag.x/Grand+Theft+Auto+4">a slew of previous GTA 4 coverage</a>, which includes:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52182">Details on the 16-person Online Multiplayer Modes</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52315">Rumors of Entirely New Cities as DLC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52114">Pictures of Suggestive GTA 4 Swag</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/51957">The Player-tracking Social Club Website</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50918">Tons of Gameplay Details</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52356">Rockstar Discussing a Possible GTA MMO</a></li>
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<p><strong>(CNN)</strong> – Sen. Barack Obama used a question during a campaign event Saturday to explain his unusual approach to politics.</p>
<p>“How do we get rid of that huge divisiveness in this country?,” a voter asked Obama in Anderson, Indiana.</p>
<p>“The president sets the tone,” the Illinois senator said before explaining the bipartisan approach he’d take if elected to the White House.</p>
<p>“But, I’m also going to try to show this during the course of the campaign,” he added. “Sometimes you take some hits. Even during this campaign, I’ve been taking some hits.”</p>
<p>“One of the things that I learned in the school yard was: the folks that are talking tough all the time, they’re not always that tough. If you’re really tough, you’re not always looking to try to start a fight. If you’re really tough, sometimes you just walk away. If you’re really tough, you just save it for when you really need it,” Obama said.</p>
<p>“I’m not interested in fighting people just for the sake of scoring political points.” “If I’m going to fight somebody it’s going to be fighting over the American people and what they need.”</p>
<p>Obama’s effort to explain his sometimes non-confrontational approach came on the same day that his rival Sen. Hillary Clinton proposed a Lincoln-Douglas style debate. Prior to Clinton’s challenge, Obama said in a television interview set to air Sunday that he would not agree to any more debates with Clinton before the May 6 primaries in North Carolina and Indiana. After learning of Clinton's proposal, the Obama campaign maintained that the Illinois senator would not participate in any more debates until after May 6.</p>
<p>It doesn't shock me that this hasn't been discussed yet, but what do yall think of this issue? The man who has been Obama's spiritual mentor for twenty years, the man who married him and his wife, who baptized his children, is a raving racist lunatic. He has said from the pulpit that the government invented AIDS to kill black people, 9/11 was "the chickens coming home to roost, "God damn America," and so on. What does this tell you about Obama? Two things have lead me to get over my qualms about McCain: The New York times sliming him unfairly and the thought of somebody like this being elected to lead America. It is a truly terrifying thought, I'm ordering my McCain bumper stickers now.</p>
<p>well, it doesn't really terrify me at all. i just think his conversion was a poor political move. i mean, he said the only reason he joined a church is because he saw the organizational potential that churches had in black communities.</p>
<p>what does that tell you about him? It tells me the whole premise of his campaign is bs. It tells me he was willing to get in bed with a radical, racist lunatic to further his political career. So much for Change, Hope, Uniting. He is not a post racial healer, he is simply another far left politican that happens to be a very engaging speaker.</p>
<p>» well, it doesn't really terrify me at all. i just think his conversion was<br />
» a poor political move. i mean, he said the only reason he joined a church<br />
» is because he saw the organizational potential that churches had in black<br />
» communities.</p>
<p>sure, i'm concerned about the rock star for president mindset. i don't think he differs from anyone else except for the illusion of change. i just don't trust his religious views so they don't terrify me. other things might.</p>
<p>» what does that tell you about him? It tells me the whole premise of his<br />
» campaign is bs. It tells me he was willing to get in bed with a radical,<br />
» racist lunatic to further his political career. So much for Change, Hope,<br />
» Uniting. He is not a post racial healer, he is simply another far left<br />
» politican that happens to be a very engaging speaker.<br />
»<br />
»<br />
» » well, it doesn't really terrify me at all. i just think his conversion<br />
» was<br />
» » a poor political move. i mean, he said the only reason he joined a<br />
» church<br />
» » is because he saw the organizational potential that churches had in<br />
» black<br />
» » communities.</p>
<p>» sure, i'm concerned about the rock star for president mindset. i don't<br />
» think he differs from anyone else except for the illusion of change. i<br />
» just don't trust his religious views so they don't terrify me. other<br />
» things might.</p>
<p>I agree with you except that I do think it is deeply disconcerting that he would associate with someone like that for political gain. Who you choose as your spiritual mentor says a lot.</p>
<p>»<br />
» » what does that tell you about him? It tells me the whole premise of his<br />
» » campaign is bs. It tells me he was willing to get in bed with a<br />
» radical,<br />
» » racist lunatic to further his political career. So much for Change,<br />
» Hope,<br />
» » Uniting. He is not a post racial healer, he is simply another far left<br />
» » politican that happens to be a very engaging speaker.<br />
» »<br />
» »<br />
» » » well, it doesn't really terrify me at all. i just think his<br />
» conversion<br />
» » was<br />
» » » a poor political move. i mean, he said the only reason he joined a<br />
» » church<br />
» » » is because he saw the organizational potential that churches had in<br />
» » black<br />
» » » communities.</p>
<p>Tough call [Mark Steyn]</p>
<p>Richard Landes has some thoughts on Obama, Wright and the prophetic tradition, in the course of which he recounts the following:</p>
<p>Although Reverend Wright has no problem attributing paranoia and stupidity to the “group of patriots in power”, he does not seem to have much awareness of the power of paranoid thinking on his own ministry, and the terrible consequences of taking refuge in this thinking. And this is, indeed, a pervasive problem in the Black community.</p>
<p>I had my first glimpse of this problem in 2000, when, as the head of the Center for Millennial Studies, I sat on a panel with three rappers and a black academic colleague, discussing the apocalyptic themes in Hip-hop. The AIDS conspiracy came up repeatedly. Finally, a member of the audience asked, “How many on the panel believe these AIDS conspiracies?” The three rap artists all said they did. I said I did not. The African American professor said:</p>
<p>I don’t want to answer that, because if I say I do, I’ll lose credibility with my colleagues, and if I say I don’t, I’ll lose credibility with the brothers.</p>
<p>The implications of this reluctance to speak replicate closely the dilemma of Barack Obama...</p>
<p>Yes, but it's a dilemma that is wholly alien to the overwhelming majority of American voters. Liberals love to play these games with social conservatives, asking Republican candidates whether they think the Book of Genesis is the literal truth, or they believe in the Rapture. But there's wiggle room in stuff that hasn't yet happened or was all a long time ago. When you're questioned about whether the US government cooked up Aids in a laboratory in the late Seventies to kill black people, you're being asked whether you accept the objective reality of the world we live in. That's not a good thing to make a "dilemma" of.</p>
<p>The Reverend Wright is, to modify Cole Porter, not "dilemma" but "da limit" - a point beyond which Americans will willingly accompany Obama. So the simple fact that an absurd proposition for most people is a painful dilemma for the Senator has the effect of distancing him from those whose votes he needs. Rather than disown the kook he's spent 20 years listening to, Obama made his gran'ma the issue. Judith Apter Klinghoffer writes:</p>
<p>Does he have any reason to believe she was a "typical" prejudiced "white person?" No. The opposite is true. Unlike Barack himself, his grandparents were active anti-racist. So much so, that they had difficulty fitting into Texas' racist society of the early 1960s.</p>
<p>He writes(pp.18-21):</p>
<p>. . . At a bank where she worked, Toot (his grandmother's nickname)made the acquaintance of the janitor, a tall and dignified black World War II vet she remembers only as Mr. Reed. While the two of them chatted in the hallways one day, a secretary in the office stormed up and hissed that Tood should never, ever, "call no nigger 'Mister.'" Not long afterworlds, Toot would find Mr. Reed in a corner of the building weeping quietly to himself. . . .</p>
<p>They (grandparents) decided Toot would keep calling Mr. Reed "Mister," . . . . Grams began to decline invitations from coworkers to go out for a beer, telling them he had to get home to keep the wife happy.</p>
<p>He goes on to tell a story about his 11 year old mother who played in the front yard with a young Black girl. Neighborhood Children gathered outside the picket fence shouting: "Nigger lover!" and "Dirty Yankee!" The grandmother tried to get them into the house. The grandfather went further:</p>
<p>Gramps was beside himself when he heard what had happened. He interrogated my mother, wrote down names. The next day he took the morning off from work to visit the school principal. He personally called the parents of some of the offending children to give them a piece of his mind.</p>
<p>No, his grandfather did not say that he could no more disown racist whites than disown the white community.</p>
<p>Obama's gran'ma was consistently better than the times required. Jeremiah Wright is a lot worse than the times require. There is, in Gran'ma's conduct, the hope of change (as Obama would say). In Wright's, there is none. It's not difficult and all the portentous self-regarding rhetoric in the world can't make it so.</p>
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<p>WASHINGTON — Barack Obama pocketed the support of at least four Democratic convention superdelegates on Wednesday, building on the momentum from a convincing North Carolina primary victory. Rival Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed to remain in the race "until there's a nominee."</p>
<p>The former first lady declined to say whether that meant through the roll call of the states at the Democratic National Convention this summer.</p>
<p>Clinton also disclosed that she had loaned her campaign an additional $6.4 million in recent weeks, evidence that her once front-runner campaign was in deep trouble.</p>
<p>She told reporters the loans were a sign of her commitment to her quest for the White House. She earlier loaned herself $5 million as she struggled to keep up with a better-financed Obama campaign.</p>
<p>Obama, now the front-runner, was home in Chicago during the day as his aides spread word that he would soon begin campaigning in states likely to be pivotal in the fall campaign. They also relayed word of the four endorsements, expected to be made public later in the day. Both disclosures were meant to signal fresh confidence that the nomination was quickly coming into his possession after a grueling marathon across 15 months and nearly all 50 states.</p>
<p>Clinton's appearance in Shepherdstown, W.Va., was meant to underscore her determination to stay the course. She also arranged a private meeting later in the day with uncommitted superdelegates.</p>
<p>Jeanette Council, an undecided superdelegate from North Carolina, said she decided over the weekend to endorse Obama but waited until after voters cast their ballots to announce it on Wednesday.</p>
<p>"I just think Senator Obama is the face of America," Council, a commissioner from Cumberland County, said in an interview with The Associated Press. "When I looked at it, I was so excited at the fact that he was bringing in so many new people and there was an excitement around the campaign."</p>
<p>Clinton won the Indiana primary narrowly early Wednesday, but the overall impact of the night's two contests was to lengthen Obama's lead in national convention delegates without fundamentally altering the nature of the race. The results also prompted former Sen. George McGovern, a Clinton backer of several months, to urge her to drop out while endorsing her rival.</p>
<p>Obama has 1,840.5 delegates to 1,688 for Clinton in The Associated Press tally. It takes 2,025 delegates to win the nomination in Denver this summer.</p>
<p>Clinton told reporters it would take 2,209 or 2,210 delegates to win the nomination, not the 2,025 in use by the Democratic National Committee. The higher total would come into play if the delegations were seated from Michigan and Florida, two states that held primaries outside the time frame that party rules required.</p>
<p>The former first lady campaigned for months to have new votes in both states, although lately has said she merely wants the delegations seated.</p>
<p>Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, said on Tuesday night it was possible a compromise could be worked out to seat the Michigan delegates. He did not mention Florida.</p>
<p>Asked at her news conference whether she intended to remain in the race through the convention roll call, Clinton said, "I'm staying in this race until there's a nominee and obviously I am going to work as hard as I can to become that nominee."</p>
<p>Clinton backers appeared on early morning television programs to stress that she was still in the race and to urge party leaders and elected officials known as superdelegates not to flee to Obama.</p>
<p>"This candidacy and this campaign continues on," Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson said on CNN.</p>
<p>Obama was 184.5 delegates shy of the number needed to secure the Democratic nomination, his campaign finally steadying after missteps fiercely exploited by the never-say-die Clinton.</p>
<p>His campaign dropped broad hints it was time for the 270 remaining unaligned superdelegates to get off the fence and settle the nomination.</p>
<p>In a counter to Wolfson, Obama communications director Robert Gibbs said: "The delegate math gets exceptionally harder for Senator Clinton every day."</p>
<p>In a memorandum to superdelegates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe reminded them of the delegate math necessary to secure the nomination. He said Clinton would need to win 68 percent of the remaining delegates to win _ an extremely unlikely scenario, made harder by her poor performance Tuesday.</p>
<p>"With the Clinton path to the nomination getting even narrower, we expect new and wildly creative scenarios to emerge in the coming days," Plouffe wrote. "While those scenarios may be entertaining, they are not legitimate and will not be considered legitimate by this campaign or millions of supporters, volunteers and donors."</p>
<p>It was in the superdelegate arena _ even more than in the scattered primaries left _ that the Democratic hyperdrama was bound to play out.</p>
<p>Clinton vowed to compete tenaciously for West Virginia next week and Kentucky and Oregon after that, and to press "full speed on to the White House."</p>
<p>But she risked running on fumes without an infusion of cash, and made a direct fundraising pitch from the stage in Indianapolis. "I need your help to continue our journey," she said.</p>
<p>And she pledged anew that she would support the Democratic nominee "no matter what happens," a vow also made by her competitor.</p>
<p>But her campaign schedule belied any immediate reconciliation. West Virginia holds its primary on Tuesday. Kentucky and Oregon hold their contests a week later. Puerto Rico is scheduled for June 1 followed promptly by Montana and South Dakota on June 3.</p>
<p>Her campaign is making the case that those contests are crucial to her and will press Democratic party officials to resolve disputed contests in Michigan and Florida, which she won but whose results the party voided because the primaries were held ahead of the schedule set by Democratic Party rules.</p>
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<p>Associated Press Writers Mike Baker in Raleigh, N.C., Liz Sidoti in Shepherdstown, W.Va., Tom Raum in Chicago and Nedra Pickler in Washington contributed to this report.</p>
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<p>For the record Obama won by 14.3 points in NC and Clinton won by only 1.2 points in IN.</p>
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<p>I personally never suffered from Obamamania and think it's silly for the radicalized progressive left to be supporting and pushing cults of personality as opposed to reasoned debate and positions.</p>
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<p>Republicans should talk about reasonable debates since they have ran on fear, race bating and personal destruction for years. Bush has proven all Republican principles are ineffective and corrupt. The country needs policies that work for every American not just for the haves and have mores.</p>
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<p>Right. And the Clintonistas have no unreasonable fixation on Hillary?<br />
Good God get a grip. Either you are a troll or deluded beyond rational observation.</p>
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<p>Since when have Republicans been willing to debate the issues? Republicans just use fear tactics and dirty tricks to win elections.</p>
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<p>The Clintons are to America what the Beatles were to England.</p>
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<p>Hillary supporters I urge you to do one thing. Please reevaluate Obama and compare the man and his policies to McCain's not Hillary's. Obviously you think Hillary is the better candidate over Obama. But please study all the issues comparing Obama to McCain. McCain's policies are 90% like Bush's policies and Obama's policies are 90% like Hillary's policies. I understand you should wait until Obama has officially won the nomination but afterwards please just give Obama a chance.</p>
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<p>Kwark<br />
Why don't you re-evaluate the Clintons?<br />
Jolly good fun you've had with your guess the new messiah is behind door #2.</p>
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<p>I understand you should wait until Obama has officially won the nomination but afterwards please just give Obama a chance.</p>
<p>I believe that inmate obama is more likely than pResident obama.</p>
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<p>When did you go off your meds?<br />
It is understandable that you are dissapointed with the way things have worked out, but your anger borders on mass delusion<br />
Grow up.</p>
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<p>Everyone knows the race is over except Hillary and some of her supporters. Even her surrogates could not hide the disappointment on their faces. Super delegates are holding out for a few reasons.</p>
<p>-Clinton is going to win WV big so they don't want it to look to bad for Obama.</p>
<p>-Clinton is negotiating with the Obama campaign with assuming their debt. I don't know how this gets past FEC rules but experts say it is done all the time.</p>
<p>-Super delegates are going to wait until Obama clinches the pledge delegate lead on May 20th to let Obama win on a high note after winning OR.</p>
<p>Clinton supporters the fact that your candidate is not going hard after Obama is the surest sign that she knows it's over. If she try's to continue her negative campaigning it will just provoke the super delegates in declaring more quickly. She is just trying to get the best deal she can before she drops out or loses on delegates. The delegate math is so daunting right now that even if they add FL and MI it will not matter so they will probably decide to seat them the first week in June.</p>
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<p>Oh you are so wise, you have so much to tell Hillary ans dome of her "ignorant" supporters.</p>
<p>YAWN.</p>
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<p>I would respond to your post if it wasn't unreadable.</p>
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<p>It is not mania.  It is sanity.</p>
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<p>MORE things for the obamans to be in denial about:</p>
<p>Never mind that Obama chose the neoconservative Lieberman to be his "assigned" mentor in the U.S. Senate. Or that "he posted a long article on the liberal blog Daily Kos criticizing attacks against lawmakers who voted for right-wing Supreme Court nominee John Roberts." Or that he opposed an amendment to the Bankruptcy Act that would have capped credit card interest rates at 30 percent. Or that he told Time Magazine's Joe Klein last year that he'd never given any thought to Al Gore's widely discussed proposal to link a "carbon tax" on fossil fuels to targeted tax relief for the nation's millions of working poor (Joe Klein, "The Fresh Face," Time, October 17,2006).</p>
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<p>Liebermann was assigned to him, not the other way around.</p>
<p>Yes, how dare he stick up for his democrat colleagues.</p>
<p>He opposed the Act because he thought 30% was too high and wanted to lower it further</p>
<p>Carbon Tax is stupid. The corps. would pass those taxes onto us by increasing prices.</p>
<p>Barry O!</p>
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<p>Yeah he's not mr. Perfect but surely he is too smart to follow most if not all of the advice that Lieberman would give him as President. I mean I understand, I think LIiberman is a disaster (he might as well be a republican) too, in fact I believe he may be the hypothesized Israeli mole codenamed "Mega", but I think your analysis is fairly square.</p>
<p>He is thoughtful and seems to have concept of other cultures unlike the current Nimrod of presidencies who sees only solutions in armed conflict, the military (even thnough the military itself disagrees generally) and all-out war on civil liberties. Sounds waaaaay too familiar of awful mistakes of the past.</p>
<p>With regards to the Bankruptcy Act, I think we all know that the only REAL change on that issue comes from Ron Paul so I don't see why singling out Obama works, however if he is truly a new JFK for the country, then he SHOULD go after the Fed and the iron grip of the NSC, the Pentagon and the intelligence community. Let's hope they don't put a lone gunman on him, eh?</p>
<p>Just pick a VP already, Obama, and congratulations!!!</p>
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<p>Please Lieberman was never Obama's "mentor" that is a complete lie.  He is campaigning with McCain if you haven't noticed.</p>
<p>Yes Obama thought 30% was egregiously high, the bill was written by credit card companies like the punitive bankruptcy law bill Hillary voted for and I must agree with Obama's judgment.</p>
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<p>All the gloating... so cool. Obama mania, indeed.<br />
Here is the truth. Get out your name calling, foul mouthed retorts, cause here it goes.<br />
Ferraro was right. Obama won in the red states, where the majority of whites are republicans. That enhanced the voting power of the AAs and activists. Hence, Obama won the Deep South, and the Desert West - solid red states that aren't going blue in Nov.<br />
4% turnout in the caucus states. Big victories in Miss, Ala, Carolinas: the states of teh Old Confederacy. Didn't any of you brilliant Obama worshipers ever wonder why a Black man was winning so resoundingly in the most racist states in the country? Do you really believe Obama will carry the Deep South, or the Desert West.<br />
Obama was getting the white vote at first. But, by Feb., his share of the white vote was down to about 40%. And, while the AAs aren't going Republican, the white vote may very well go for McCain, or stay home.<br />
Those who see Obama as the be all seem to have no idea how deeply offensive his racist ties are to white voters. At least 50% admitted this in exit poll after exit poll. It isn't racism AGAINST Obama, folks.<br />
It is the OJ effect. White people just aren't willing to say the guy wasn't guilty, just cause he's a brother.</p>
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<p>why dont we just list all of their good and bad truths. if we put those together we can pick the least worst of the two.</p>
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